Cemetery Program Support Assistant

Speaker 0 00:00:13 In the intro, uh, uh, where's the line. Speaker 1 00:00:18 Welcome to autism on shift. Speaker 0 00:00:19 This is Adam and Thora, and we're glad you joined us again, born for the first time. Welcome back, or welcome. Or click-click Speaker 1 00:00:32 Today. We are talking to Chuckie. Chuckie works at a national cemetery and is a program support specialist. Did I do it right? Speaker 2 00:00:43 No, I didn't support assistant. Speaker 3 00:00:46 Okay. Speaker 1 00:00:49 Yeah, we do that a lot around here. Um, mess up, right? Yeah. So tell us about your job, please. Speaker 2 00:00:57 And welcome. Yes. Hi, welcome. Thank you. Um, so I'm a program support assistant at a national cemetery. I do among other things, um, ordering the headstones for the veterans that come in. I review cemetery representatives, paperwork. I work as a direct assistant to the cemetery administrator who is one step below our director. Uh, so I'm climbing the ladder slowly. I've been there six years. I started as a part-time cemetery representative and at 32 and six years, I'm now a program support assistant. So I've gone up quite a few steps, very fast. It must be I've been doing it about six months. The first project right out of the gate was I'm calling everyone who could not have an in-person service during the, uh, COVID shut down. We were just doing it all. Sometimes we're just doing direct burials. So when we opened back up to full services, I'd call about 815 families and reschedule their Memorial services. No, no. Oh four weeks. Speaker 0 00:02:34 That's actually pretty good considering Speaker 2 00:02:37 I'm, I'm, I'm very, uh, organized, which I know is weird for somebody with, uh, Ash burgers. I have a pendant for a whiteboards and lists. Nice and sticky notes, Speaker 0 00:02:52 A beautiful mind, sticky notes, like a whole room full of sticky notes. Speaker 2 00:02:58 Why I went to the white board because it's sticky. Yeah. Let's keep falling off. Speaker 0 00:03:02 How's it gets expensive whiteboards. You can get one and just keep it going over and over again. Speaker 1 00:03:07 Yeah. Making them sticky too. Back in the day, they used to be sticky. Now they don't, they like cheap out. They're not sticky anymore. Speaker 2 00:03:15 The, a new one for my office and it's like eight foot long and four foot high. And they're like, why do you need that? And I was like, I just need it. I don't need to tell you why I just need it. Or my work I'm worried about, if Speaker 0 00:03:31 I want a four foot by eight foot board, then I'm getting a four foot by eight foot board. That's all there is to Speaker 2 00:03:40 The end of it. Just, you want Speaker 1 00:03:42 815 families reschedule and I get a four foot by eight foot wide boards. Speaker 3 00:03:47 Right? Speaker 2 00:03:50 Yeah. It's, it's, it's ridiculous. The damn things bigger than I am. Um, but yeah, so I do, um, I do formatting of headstones. Uh disinterment I'm learning. What is that? Uh, that is surprisingly, um, moving somebody from one place to another, which happens a lot more than you think it does. What would be the, what would be a reasoning? The most common reason is, um, there are 168 national cemeteries in the national cemetery administration. Right. Um, some rural areas only have one and like the whole state, uh, you have some that, like Massachusetts only has one. Um, they just opened another one in New York. There's like nine and Florida. There's. I mean, it all depends on the population. Okay. So if your loved one was buried at, say a national cemetery and 1990, early 2000. Yeah. And then they decide to open one within like 10 miles of your home. I know people will. Yeah. They'll be like, Hey, I want to move my loved one from this national cemetery to the one that's closer Speaker 0 00:05:30 Can actually go and visit the site. And that makes sense. Speaker 2 00:05:34 Yeah. Um, are there, may I ask, Speaker 1 00:05:37 Are there, and I know, you know, uh, I imagine with veterans you'll have a huge array of different religious, um, affiliations, um, are there religious kind of, uh, Hertz to the national Speaker 2 00:05:51 Cemetery administration has 74 available religious envelopes. Wow. Every thing from everything from the Christian Cross, which is what you think of, you know, the normal cross that everybody gets, um, to, we have the melon lore, which is the hammer of Thor. We have the weakened panicle, we got the Druid, a win, which I'm very excited about, which means I have something for my stone now. Um, we just got like a text heart and a guardian angel that praying hands we've got as long we've got Jewish, we've got Masonic Jewish. Um, it's yeah. 74 available religious. Awesome. And it's constantly getting updated. That's great. Yeah. Back in the eighties, you had like three options. I was going to say there's like three or four, right? Yeah. You had the Christian Cross, the Buddhist wheel and the Jewish star star of David. Wow. That's and Speaker 0 00:07:07 I knew from the pictures of, you know, national cemeteries in the past, that's what it looked like. You know, you had mostly crosses and yeah, there was one Jewish, the one star of David and like, I don't think I ever seen the other one, honestly. What was the, what was it? The Buddhist Dan actually seen him in any pictures. Speaker 2 00:07:28 Yeah. We actually just had our first, um, veteran interred with the Mellon there. The hammer of Thor. I ordered his, I was excited about that one. Yes. I, uh, I, uh, ordered his stone the other day and I'm looking at count, like just moving this comes in. I want to see it's so bad. Speaker 1 00:07:54 Take lots of pictures for us. Yeah. You know, I'm, you know, you know, blur out the names and what not, but man, Speaker 0 00:08:03 So, so tell us what, um, what you like most about your job. I know this is, you know, since this is a fairly new, he said six months, right. In this position. Um, is there anything that you stands out to you that you really enjoy about it, uh, as opposed to what you've been doing in the past? Speaker 2 00:08:21 Um, well, I was a cemetery representative before, so I, um, I had more direct contact with the families before now. I kind of sit in the office and just like do paperwork better or worse. Um, I mean, I have Asperger's so I have the, uh, the problem of being able to read people, but I've done nothing but mortuary science, my entire adult life. So being able to, um, interact with families, I actually miss it. Okay. Which I know is kind of weird. All things considered, um, the thing with, uh, grieving, like when you meet somebody who's not grieving, um, they have the full spectrum of emotions. Yeah. And I know that you guys probably have the same issues with you're like, are you mad at me? Or like, if the situation, do you want an answer? Are you looking for a rant? Like, like, yeah, we did actually one of those, uh, I don't understand what's going on. Speaker 2 00:09:44 Somebody tell me what you're feeling, because I don't know. Um, I'm also bipolar type two. Um, and I have severe PTSD as well as hearing loss. So I, uh, I have a real hard time gauging where some, a normal person is in their emotions. Like, unless they are actually crying I'm I'm going to give you a solution. Yeah. You're, you're good. Right. Um, so with grieving people, there's only a few ways they can go. So you're going to have the person. Yeah. You're going to have the person that's going to be, uh, you know, the loud crier, the hugger of the cascade. You're going to have the person that is just angry, just mad about everything you're going to have. You're going to have the, the one that is stoic is, you know, is silent. And within the first couple of minutes of meeting these people, yeah. You can judge where they're going to go. And for somebody like me, that made mortuary really, I don't want to say nice. Cause that sounds crass, but it has easier for me to, you know, deal with what was needed from me. Because if you're angry, then I know, oh, okay. You're going to be an angry griever. That's fine. I know how to handle that. Yeah. It's important Speaker 0 00:11:28 To know how to interact with your job. Absolutely. That's and that's, and that is helpful. That makes a lot of sense, honestly. Speaker 2 00:11:35 So I learned over the years I graduated high school in 2007 and then enlisted in the military. So since 2007. Okay. So I would say a mortuary affairs specialist first, and then I got hurt and I got out and I came a cemetery rep, but, uh, that's really what I miss the most. Um, I do a lot of paperwork now, like grammar checking. Speaker 0 00:12:16 I was going to say, that's something she would like. And I would absolutely despise that aspect of the job, honestly. Speaker 2 00:12:22 Like I love it. I'm not going to lie. I do. Um, our, uh, privacy officer sent an email and his, uh, he had like a question on how we would handle specific things. And, uh, I, I kind of went off on left field because it said securely. And then his, you know, his little signature block and securely, it was part of his signature block, but it was spelled wrong. So instead of answering the question, I said, I'm back then. I was like securely spelled wrong. And he's like, can you just answer the damn question? Like, Speaker 0 00:13:11 I really can't, uh, not until it's spelled correctly. Speaker 3 00:13:14 Sorry. Speaker 2 00:13:16 I'm gonna fix it. You're driving me insane. Um, yeah. Speaker 0 00:13:21 You know, it's funny, I don't care too much about specifically words in general normally, but if something like that, that will stick out to me and I will, I it'll bother, oh my God. It'll bother me so much. Speaker 1 00:13:37 Go off. I'm just like, I'm usually Speaker 0 00:13:39 Like a number or yeah. But, uh, that would, that would absolutely bother me. Yeah. I am curious. Cause I know you said out of high school, you, uh, you went into the military getting, going into the military. Did they train you for the type of work that you do now? Or does, how does that work? Speaker 2 00:14:01 So mortuary affairs is actually the smallest MLS in the United States are 250 people that did my job and then give them fine. Did you get to choose it? I actually chose it. I was qualified for any job that a woman could do in the military when I joined. Okay, awesome. And, uh, I, uh, I wanted to be a vet when I was very little and I grew up on a farm and I realized very quickly that, uh, I enjoy animals more than people. Okay. Fair Speaker 0 00:14:42 People say after they meet us, they say, you know what? We like our animals better than you guys. Sorry, go ahead. Speaker 2 00:14:51 But uh, so mortuary affairs, like I chose it and uh, yeah, I went through all the training and everything and I already had an associate's degree, but I went in as a private me one, um, because I wanted to know what it was like to be on the bottom of the totem pole. I'm one of those autistic people that I have to do. Uh, I have to be in charge. Yeah, I do better when I'm in charge. If, if someone's like giving me taskings, especially audio taskings, I have a real hard time. Speaker 3 00:15:38 I feel you on that one, me Speaker 2 00:15:42 Do like a, B, C, D, and E. And I'll be like, okay, I'll get B an Eden. And then I'm like, fuck. Yeah, Speaker 0 00:15:54 You can just tell me those other ones when I'm done. How's Speaker 2 00:15:57 That? Yeah. Like, so, you know, I, um, I definitely do better kinetic writing things down, um, the whiteboards, the whiteboards and the lists. I have lists of like everything. Yeah. Speaker 1 00:16:12 I have told my supervisor quite a few times that I need instructions than writing. And you would think that was not a difficult thing to do considering I work remotely. And she is she's across the country from me. We talk three times a week for maybe 15 Speaker 0 00:16:28 Minutes. And the fact that you're out as autistic. So you said specifically, these are the things that I need help. I need Speaker 1 00:16:35 My instructions in writing. And I got in trouble today, again for not following an instruction that was given to me verbally versus serious. How many times do I have to say email is so easy? Speaker 2 00:16:51 I, uh, I got in trouble for, um, not being nice to our internal customers. You know, your, your coworkers. Yeah. Again, so I beat out a bunch of older males for my current position and none of them are really happy about it. Shock. Yeah, totally shocking. You know, patriarchy being live well and everything. Right. Um, can I just say you go girl? Uh, so, uh, a male employee, super Christian. Okay. Like his children are only allowed to read the Bible, their homeschool. They, he, his five kids, his daughters are not allowed to wear pants. Wow. Shit. Right. And he told me to go back to my cage. What Speaker 0 00:18:17 Did you tell him that your penis was bigger than his? Speaker 2 00:18:20 Well, yeah, it should be my office and, uh, I, I kind of want a little ballistic. I was like, uh, you know, my daddy and my husband don't speak to me like this, so the fuck. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Um, so he went and complained. He can play. And then I got a lecture about being nice. What ever I hope I was like, Hmm. I was like, that was nice. Trust me. That was nice. Yeah. He's still alive in me. And um, he's, he's not particularly well educated. Um, I'm sorry. That does not surprise me. Um, so I've taken two because I, I am out with my, um, religion at work. I'm very open about the fact that I am a high priestess of, uh, the jury community that I run a coven that I do, outreach events, you know, I'm very open out about that. And, uh, so I I've taken to, uh, saying things in Latin. Speaker 2 00:19:54 That's hilarious. The one, two, three, um, I'm graduated early so I can join right away. And, uh, I actually had to take, to listening to classical music in one ear during like left brain activities, you know, science, math, stuff like that. And then for literature, art, things of that nature, I listened to physics lectures. And that, that was the only way I focused. It's actually funny within the, um, the federal government as you move up, um, you have to have 52 weeks at the lower grade. So it's, it's a step scale. So like, if you're going for, for positioning assets, 52 weeks as a three. Okay. And the first time I tried out for my current job, I did not have 52 weeks. I was just shy. So even though I passed the resume and all that other stuff, basic qualifications, I didn't get an interview. No. And, um, and my dad has helped me with the resume and everything. Cause dad was very much Raven cloth. The only one in the family, I'm a slithering. My husband's awful puff. And my sister, mom are both parishioners. Uh, uh, yes. Cause we're that generation everything's Harry Potter. Um, as you can tell by my Slitherin theme library, that the audience can't see, it's glorious by the way. Speaker 2 00:22:00 Yes. It's a, it's been a dream of dads and I, for a long time, he didn't get to see it finished, but it's nice to have it done now, but, uh, I blanked see, this is why I have whiteboards. I do it all the time. Speaker 1 00:22:18 Well, maybe I can cut in here. And cause you were touched on kind of the next thing in the, in the outline, which is the interview process. So you, when you finally did get the interview, how did that go? What was that like for you? Speaker 2 00:22:29 Um, in all honesty, for fairness, the federal government generally does, um, phone interviews. So, um, that better Speaker 0 00:22:40 Or worse for you because I know that would suck for me. Speaker 2 00:22:43 Um, I prefer in person, but like I said, I've worked my way up, so I've done quite a few of them. Uh, the very first interview I ever did for the part-time cemetery representative job, I did it, my parents' front yard on my cell phone with a cigar in my hand, my glass scotch. Speaker 1 00:23:10 Oh, that's awesome. Speaker 2 00:23:13 So I'm like this time I, I happened to be at work when they, uh, did the interview and um, they of course give you time to, you know, do the interview. Yeah. I wish I was in the, I was in the conference room and I have my cell phone on me and I had my headphones and, and uh, it's three part questions. And as you guys until have problem with the audio, so I've developed this really screwed up shorthand that nobody can read or taking notes because you guys probably have the same problem where you think faster than your hands can move. So I've developed this like bastard shorthand between what? My 80 year old grandmother taught me and like weird symbols. And I mean, like, if you look at it, it looks like something awful. Like star Trek night. It makes no sense to anybody else. Super secret spike code. Speaker 3 00:24:32 Yes. Speaker 1 00:24:35 If you've seen those old school stenographers old, cool old school sonographers before they had like, you know, like a typewriter style Speaker 3 00:24:41 Tile style I Speaker 1 00:24:43 Have, I cannot make that word happen. The typewriter style deal they had, Speaker 2 00:24:49 Like, I actually have a typewriter style keyboard. Cool. I need and it lights up. Oh, that's awesome. Are you a gamer? Because I need the tactile response of the keys. Yes. Otherwise it feels like because I'm not physically writing with paper. I can't press down. So I found out that I had to get the, uh, typewriter style keyboard to, uh, get me to pay attention to what I was doing on the keyboard. Otherwise my mind wander Speaker 1 00:25:26 That is amazing. I am super impressed by how self-aware. Speaker 0 00:25:30 Yeah, definitely. Yeah. You come up with good ideas to help you through, uh, anything that you have going on. I think it's awesome. That Speaker 1 00:25:38 Is I can't, I mean, that's it, I can't imagine Speaker 3 00:25:42 Being Speaker 1 00:25:43 So self-aware that I could know my needs before I knew what they were like, and that's how it looks like it works for you. And that's super impressive. Speaker 0 00:25:53 Pretty oblivious. That's why he piss everyone off. Speaker 2 00:25:58 I, um, I like black and white, black and white makes me happy. Right. So I started going to bars with a notebook and a pen and I would sit at the end of the bar all night, my little notebook drinking my whiskey, just watching people and like jotting down notes, like, oh, well this girl's in a group of five and they're all drinking this. And then this dude approaches her and he isolates her from the group kind of like a line with a gazelle. And it felt very much like Jane Goodall watching the apes. Speaker 3 00:26:48 I love it. You know, just, Speaker 2 00:26:50 Just trying to figure out what the dynamic I was missing was so, um, you know, being as autistic well Aspers as I am, um, I quickly realized that past a certain level of, uh, inebriation, it doesn't really matter what you look like or what you're wearing. Um, it's, it's more about, uh, well set. So instead of, um, you know, playing all those games, I'd find the hot guy, I'd walk up to him. I'd be like, hi, I'm checky. Want to fuck? Brilliant. Nice, nice. You know, like that's how I got my first date. Speaker 3 00:27:56 No, I'm taking notes. Yeah. Stop taking notes. You've Speaker 0 00:28:00 Been together 19 years now. You don't need to go back to school, Speaker 2 00:28:05 But yeah, it was, uh, it was hilarious. It's just like, um, I, I didn't understand, you know, how to be feminine. And, uh, I actually had a drag queen teach me how to be feminine. Speaker 0 00:28:24 You know, it's really funny. Speaker 2 00:28:28 They, uh, he was a good friend of mine. I called him my, uh, my mother. And, um, and I'm not trying to offend anybody. The LGBT Q community, um, use a battle buddy of mine. It was back under the don't ask. Don't tell right when you couldn't be openly gay in the military. And uh, yep. He took me to the mall. He taught me all about clothes and makeup and shoes and purses. Speaker 1 00:29:02 He does. Oh my, I can't dress myself. I have no clue. And the only way I can walk out of the house, looking like a semi human woman is I take Adam to the store with me and he tells me what looks good on me. I have no idea. Speaker 2 00:29:22 Yeah. I wear all black all the time. All right. I'm a hardcore got, can't tell by the bat shirt I'm wearing, um, uniform Speaker 1 00:29:33 Now it's very different every day, but it is exactly the same. And here's how it is a t-shirt Speaker 2 00:29:41 And a wrap skirt, but they're all Speaker 0 00:29:47 Made from recycled saris. Speaker 2 00:29:50 That is cool. Speaker 0 00:29:52 And she, and she's got a lot of them. Speaker 2 00:29:55 I see that. I thought it was holy crap. I thought, yeah. Speaker 0 00:30:02 Yeah. Well, we made it, we made it part of the wall, art it's in a, it's in the corner of the room as, uh, as art to our Speaker 1 00:30:12 That's my uniform. So I can look put together without having to think about, put myself together like that you call it a uniform. Speaker 3 00:30:19 That's very telling isn't it Speaker 1 00:30:21 The same thing every day. That's why I like it. Speaker 0 00:30:25 I mean, I get it. I, I wear a uniform every day too, cause I go to work and it's the same. It's like an inspector gadget. Cause I have the same pants and the same shirt it Speaker 2 00:30:37 And, and I have, um, I have the problem where I have one Navy blue suit. Okay. And, uh, everything else is black. And I think I have maybe two charcoal gray, but uh, if, if my husband moves my Navy blue suit in the closet, I cannot tell what fricking colored is on the back porch with viz white paint for going, is this blue or is this black like Speaker 0 00:31:13 Tone difference? He thinks he can, but he can't. Speaker 1 00:31:18 Yeah. For context, all four of us, we have two kids, all four of us are autistic. Speaker 2 00:31:22 Yeah. Yeah. So, okay. Yeah. All right. Yeah. We got the coolest family out there pretty much. Speaker 3 00:31:30 I mean, I don't want to brag or anything, but I do Speaker 2 00:31:36 Well like, um, I'm 32 now my husband is six years younger than I am. I'm a bit of a Cougar. Um, and uh, you know, I met him when he was 19 poor kid. You didn't know what he was getting into damn chest. And, uh, he is very affectionate. He's very much a feeling kind of person. And um, like even within our relationship, because I don't understand social cues so well. Um, so like if he comes home and he had a particularly rough day, you know, as well as I do that, when somebody comes to you with a problem being on the spectrum, your first thing is okay, how do I solve this problem? Absolutely. Speaker 0 00:32:49 Why else would someone come to me with the problem? Speaker 2 00:32:53 Exactly. Why are you, you don't yell at me for 30 minutes about whatever it was. If you're not looking for a solution to your problem, like I don't get it, whatever. So, um, in the early days of us dating, uh, there, there was a lot of, uh, like he grant and then he'd get upset because I'd offered a solution and he'd be like, that's not what I want from you. I just want you to listen to me. And I'm like, okay. So we've developed the, uh, anybody in the family and the clam and the coven when they come chunky with a problem, you know, it's first question out of my mouth. Are you looking for a solution or do you just want me to listen? Nice because then it sets the baseline for what they are expecting from me. Yeah. You know, if you just need me to be an ear, you know, to listen to whatever it is you got going on, I can do that. But if you're looking for a solution, I know that I need to listen intently. I need to get past all the anger and everything to develop a working solution. And again, I'm not an audio person. So if it is a solution, it's, you know, I've got a really, really paid attention to what you're saying to me. So a lot of the emotion gets edited out. Nice. You know, till you come down to the base problem. Yep. Speaker 1 00:34:44 See, now if I could do that ahead of time, we, we would be, it would make it a lot easier. I think today, the words out of my mouth and probably with this same inflection is what do you want Speaker 0 00:34:56 From me? Pretty much that, of course later on it was realized like, I don't know what I want from you. I just need to figure it out as we go along. So, Speaker 2 00:35:09 But yeah. And it it's crazy. Um, like, like I mentioned, I have a post-traumatic stress disorder and mine's complex because it comes from multiple sources. I have a service dog for, and uh, I actually write down on the calendar, my trigger dates. Oh, that's, you know, so they're, um, they're on the calendar. They're highlighted in red. They know that for like three days before, three days after I'm going to be all over the place, I'm going to be angry. I'm going to be, you know, whatever it is and they can anticipate it. So they don't see that change in me as something that they did or set. Yeah. And the compared the sledgehammer. Yeah. That's all because when you're dealing with somebody, that's not typical, whether it's, you know, trauma-based autism based bipolar, uh, depression, anxiety, people don't realize that the big problem is the way we perceive the world is not the same as the way a typical person perceives the world. Speaker 2 00:36:37 Yeah. So you have to be your own best advocate. If you don't understand what your issues are and you can't own them, how are you supposed to do anything? Right? Yep. That's well put absolutely. I love it. I, I mean, I lost my son at 18 months. He was 18 months old when he died. I met my husband six months after he died. Our first date, I laid everything on the table, everything. Wow. The tours overseas, the, the PTSD, all of it. And it was basically, this is what I come with. You can, you know, be on this journey with me or we can shake hands now and have a nice life. Wow. And people don't understand that. You know, they, they want to water themselves down. Especially women. We grow up in a society that says from the minute you hit kindergarten, you hit kindergarten, knew equitably. That one boy that picks on you. Right. Pulls your pony, tail, flicks you, whatever it is. Oh yes. Oh yes. Oh no, no. You are teaching your daughters from infancy. That it's okay to be less than who they are to be less than two to put themselves in a box that they don't fit in. Because that's what society says. We should be. Or to Speaker 1 00:38:34 Accept abuse as if it were love. Love. Right. Speaker 2 00:38:38 My mother was not like that. My mother is not like that. My mother and father were very much. If somebody crosses that line, we have our full permission to throat punch them and then go argue with your principal and get you ice cream afterwards. And then people won't realize that it's like the same thing with, um, you know, kids when they're young, they want to die. They're here work colors. They want to experiment with we're in fashion choices. And the parent is so focused on what that says about that. What does it hurt to let your eight year old streetcar hair blue with Kool-Aid right with what is Speaker 1 00:39:38 It? Yeah. As we look at each other, because our son has dyed his hair, every color from this pink I'm currently wearing, which was his first color was no, it was pink. His first, I think it Speaker 0 00:39:48 Was. And he was, he was probably eight. He had his hair dyed for about three years, straight, Speaker 1 00:39:55 Many different colors and pink too. And everybody was like, why do you want pink for a boy? I was like, it's pink. I Speaker 0 00:40:01 Don't care. What's her problem. Yeah, really? Yeah. What's your problem. Speaker 2 00:40:05 And, and you know, when you enter the workforce from the time you enter the workforce to the time you were tired, you, you have to live within the social construct. Yes. You have no choice. If you want any kind of career that has job security, where you make some actual money and you want, you know, have a nice lifestyle in America, you have to inform. Yeah. Well, Speaker 1 00:40:44 We're actually meeting a lot of people who refuse and they are self-employed, we're about half and half with our interviews. So far half people that, you know, they do the conformity because it's required of us. And then others that are like, you know what, I can't, I just can't. I would get to a boiling point and they're like, I just can't function that way anymore. And Speaker 0 00:41:04 I'll actually, I'll actually ask you since it's on the outline too, since we're talking about that and you get to that point, um, you know, do you have a place, you have a place where you don't want to conform and then kind of, what's your, what's your like ultimate job. If you could create one, do you know what that would be? Cause you seem pretty self-aware. So I'd be curious to know what that would be for Speaker 2 00:41:27 You. Okay. All right. So there's two prior me being injured my out my whole left side from my military service and, uh, being injured overseas is damaged to the point where my dream job is no longer an option. I cannot physically do it. Um, wanting to be a medical examiner. I got to do a lot of autopsies while I was in the military. I wanted to be a medical examiner since I was eight years old. I love everything with death dying. I mean, I proved the funding. Speaker 3 00:42:11 That's awesome. Speaker 2 00:42:13 However, in a political climate of last few years, I'm only 32. So I'm, I'm not able to run yet. Uh, so we have four more years before I'm old enough to run for president. And, uh, it's a shot in the dark, but I would love to be in the white house. I really would. It's I know it sounds crazy, but I got my vote. Speaker 0 00:42:46 What was the Laureate? The poet Laureate. Yeah. So yeah, you're going to have some, you're going to have some fight and Speaker 1 00:42:53 Amanda Gorman will not be old enough in four years. Oh, she's eight years. Okay. Speaker 0 00:42:59 So let's wrap this up with, uh, because you have, you have a lot of good opinions. I would, if you have any, uh, you have anything else that you'd like to share with the audience before we head on out here, any last, any last good words to do per still upon us, Speaker 2 00:43:19 If you are on the spectrum or you have any kind of non-typical, whatever it is, do not let people put you into the box that they say you fit in, do your own research, find out what works for you. I mean, we live in an information you could access and you think, yeah, go on. Learn what your personality type is for the Myers-Briggs test. Learn what your love languages, you know, figure out who you are. And when you are comfortable with who you are and somebody comes at you with some BS, just Chuck it in the fuck it, bucket and move on. Speaker 0 00:44:20 Well done. Nice. I want to say thank you Chucky very much for being with us today. We enjoyed it. This has been a fun experience. Speaker 1 00:44:29 I had a blast getting to you and talking with you. Thank you so much, Speaker 2 00:44:33 Guys. Welcome. Y'all have nice that you've named right on. Hey, if that was Speaker 3 00:44:39 Fun for you, it was fun for me. Oh, you're talking to her. Yes, yes. Go on listeners. Oh yeah. Speaker 1 00:44:46 We'd like to talk to you, um, about your job. Yeah. Come to Speaker 0 00:44:51 Carver resumes.com uh, go to the contact link, link button and fill it out. Name, email, and, uh, just say, you know, uh, like to be on the podcast. Uh, any job doesn't matter what your job we'd just like to have you please join us.