Wine Taster

Speaker 0 00:00:12 Hi. I know you all want to know what other autistic people do for work, Speaker 1 00:00:16 Right? Right. That's what we're here for. We're cool. I'm glad I'm in the right place. Speaker 0 00:00:23 You're listening to autism on shift. Uh, stick around. We've got a guest coming up that is going to thrill and excite you today. We are talking to Carly. Currently is a wine tasting consultant. Dang it. Wait a minute. Wine tasting associate. Speaker 2 00:00:46 Close enough. Welcome. Nice to meet you, Carla. Thanks for being here. Of course. Thank you for having me. Speaker 3 00:00:54 What did you call it again? Speaker 2 00:00:57 My official title pre pandemic was tasting bar associate. And I'm going back to my job in a couple of weeks, but the tasting bar is still closed because of, you know, like wanting to slow the spread of COVID and we're waiting for her to immunity to kick in and all that. Yeah. Yeah, Speaker 3 00:01:14 For sure. And you're not supposed to lick countertops in, it sounds like tasting bar. I mean, that's what you tasting, Speaker 2 00:01:23 But basically it's wine tasting, but once I come back, I'm going to be working in the gift shop. Like just helping people buy bottles of wine and putting together wine packs or all that fun stuff. So I'm not I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm really hoping that the tasting bar opens up so I can like do wine tastings again. That was like really fun. Sounds Speaker 0 00:01:43 Fun. Tell us what that's like, how do you, is it, is it something that you had to learn or are you just on Speaker 2 00:01:50 The job type of deal and on the job? I, I still remember like my first day there, um, basically it's a job that I kind of like, uh, had to, I kind of got it by accident, I guess. Cause, uh, here's, here's the story before this, I was working at a grocery store and it was just the worst environment. It ma it was, it was toxic, abusive. My, I was depressed and they treated me like garbage. So like shortly after my 25th birthday, I just, I quit. I know that wasn't very professional of me, but I was like, you know what? I was like looking for another job behind the scenes. I got something at spirit Halloween to hold me over. And then I just walked in one morning and was like, um, I found another job and I'm, I'm leaving. And after that I drove to the nearby park and threw my name tag into the Lake, like Speaker 4 00:02:46 Rose at the end of Titanic. And I'm Speaker 2 00:02:49 Damn, that felt good. But anyway, I got the job, the spirit Speaker 3 00:02:52 Of there, by the way, I have, we both been there where we Speaker 2 00:02:55 Were like, get out of here. Oh yeah. Yes, very freeing. I feel that, but anyway, after that I got a job at spirit Halloween, cause it was like September. So they were starting to ramp up a bit and I needed additional income, of course. So I got this job at a winery nearby and it was, and I, I just absolutely loved it. I, I still remember my first day. And it's not often that you, like, I know you're not supposed to drink on the job, but like the first day that it actually made me taste some wines and I'm a total lightweight. So I like needed to sit down for a bit. And also at the time I'd, I'd had a frenectomy at my dentist and I was like, still like healing up. So I'm like, maybe I shouldn't drink, but they're like, come on, try this or this Moscato. And we also have beers on tap. Would you like to try this IPA? And I'm like, yeah. It's like, normally that would get you fired from work. But I'm like, Speaker 0 00:03:58 Yeah, but that day you're like, is it liquor before beer or beer before? Yeah. Speaker 2 00:04:03 But yeah, that was basically how I got the job and I really didn't have to go to any special schools for it. It's just, it's kind of something I had just picked naturally as like, it was something I became interested in after, you know, turning 21. And I was like, I remember my 21st birthday, we tried beers. And I was like, yeah, no, I'm not into this. But wine was a little more what I was into. And um, I'm still not, I'm not like one of those people that has a super refined palate. Like I could, like, there are people in wine tasting and I'm really embarrassed to admit this because I, I work in that job. But people that are like this Cabernet Sauvignon has hints of plums or cherries or figs. And I'm like, my, my palette's not that refined. It's just, it, it, it still kind of tastes like almost the same to me. Like I can pick on like, I don't know. Speaker 3 00:05:01 Now let me do in, in that job, if you're doing it for a long time, does you know, does it take the longer you go, the better your pallet is? Speaker 2 00:05:11 It's sort of improved. Like it got a little better over time. Speaker 3 00:05:15 So that's kind of neat, right? I mean, it's like, I can see like, you know, if you're in the same job 10 years later, then you're there, then you're, you're, you're the one who's like, Oh, it tastes. Yeah. And I, I Speaker 2 00:05:25 Sorta just like copy off of like more experienced people in the tasting bar. And, um, I like basically, and I remember like, uh, when I started, but my boss basically told me all the stories behind the wines and like, some of them are in Italian and like what their English translations are. And, uh, and not just to tell, but my favorite wine at that winery is a German wine and it's, it's pronounced, governor's demeanor and people are really that. I know how to pronounce that. Awesome. But yeah, it's like, I, I guess I am the resident wine expert of my family now because I'm the only one who knows how to pronounce the names. Awesome. Speaker 0 00:06:08 What is your favorite wine, your favorite type of wine? Like Speaker 2 00:06:12 In general? Well, I just like prefer dry whites or, and sometimes maybe a dry Rose. A reds are fine, but they're a bit too strong for my taste. Speaker 0 00:06:21 Okay. Yeah. I'm uh, my favorite is, uh, is a good Pinot noir. Speaker 2 00:06:27 Yes. Oh, that's my mom's favorite. I think Speaker 0 00:06:31 Yeah. Cab is going to be my next favorite. Yeah. We haven't had one in Speaker 3 00:06:38 Quito and so, uh, if we drink, it's going to be, if we either have like the white claws or vodka depending, but I'm missing wine. I actually, now that we're talking about, I'm like, I want some wine now. Oh. Speaker 0 00:06:52 So you said that you learned on the job, which is super cool. I would love to learn that I would love to drink all that Speaker 2 00:07:00 Stuff. I was like drinking after that one day, I was like, I don't know if I can, I can do this anymore. Cause I need like, like I said, I'm a total lightweight and I need like some time to recover from that. But, uh, Speaker 3 00:07:14 I'm curious, I'm curious. Uh, if you think your autism helped you with like learning all of the stuff, memorizing it, all this stuff, like when you said they were teaching all about those wines, are you a fast learner? Speaker 2 00:07:29 I am a really fast learner and I guess it also just came with like repetition. Cause I guess I basically have a script basically like, ah, can I, would you like to try some lines? And uh, I had to memorize like what a good order for was like going from white to red or dry to sweet and like sort of ordering what wines to go from. Like if you pick this wine, you should try this first or last. And uh, and when they're trying their wines, I'm like telling them a little bit about it. Like this is a blend of, of a Cabernet seven yawn and our stand DVC. And uh, just telling them a little bit about the wines while they're enjoying it. And if you like this, I also recommend this or this wine pairs very well with red meat or pasta with red sauce. Like that sort of thing. Awesome. I mean, it's, it's sort of me learning and just learning by repetition and learning by observation. But, uh, Speaker 3 00:08:31 Yeah, that's kind of cool. We had a friend who did, uh, like kind of scotch distribution and I remember he came over there with these wines as well. Yeah. So he came, we actually, he, he lived in Flagstaff at the time and we went to his, uh, apartment and he had these little test tubes with all the scotches and, you know, and it was, I found it really interesting, you know, like you where there's like an order for your pilot to go in. And I, it was completely foreign to me. And so even like, when you saying that it's, uh, it's, it's interesting. I wonder how that, you know, like how you, like, I don't know. I don't know enough about it to like how you even figured that out, you know, Speaker 2 00:09:11 Because it's like, if you try like a certain thing before, after a certain thing and it totally affects the taste, cause like you don't want to try like a peach wine and then go to like a Norway or a Patisiran. Cause it's basically like drinking orange juice after brushing your teeth. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I like in it too. I like those, you learn real quick what doesn't work. Yeah. Yeah. There's like, there's this, there is a science to Speaker 3 00:09:39 It. That's awesome. Wine is awful. Uh, actually it's a $300 one. And you started with, uh, no dogs first. That's the problem, right? Speaker 2 00:09:47 It's not a bad wine. It's just, you didn't have the right thing with it. Right. Speaker 0 00:09:53 Um, tell us about what is hard at work and, and how, um, and how autism really, um, gives you a hard time at work. It does, for all honest to goodness, Speaker 2 00:10:03 The hardest thing is like the it's like the sensory input. I mean, I can deal with it to an extent and it hasn't really been a huge issue for me, but sometimes it gets really crowded. Um, thankfully it's never like understaffed that the winery. So they're always like other associates that can help me out with it. So I'm not like bouncing from customer to customer at the wine bar. So, uh, I'm not, I'm never alone, but sometimes the, like the music can get a little overwhelming, all the chitter chatter. And um, I mean, thankfully I've never had to cut somebody off from getting too drunk. That doesn't happen. So I don't, yeah. I think there was only, I think in the entire time I was there, I've only seen one person get kind of tipsy, but that was at a party. Speaker 3 00:10:52 W was that you? No, no, Speaker 2 00:10:55 No. So, but yeah, the about to add onto that, like in addition to the wine bar, sometimes I would like serve wine at private events, like bridal showers or baby showers or corporate parties. And thankfully I've never had to deal with somebody getting super wasted. It's just, uh, I guess it's, it's not like bartending where you have to be like, okay, you've had enough to drink. Can I call you a cab or something? Yeah. That's a, um, I'm thankful. I've never had to deal with that, but like the sensory overload sometimes can be a bit much because there'll be like lots of talking at once. And I'm somebody that like, I'm not really bothered by loudness is of certain noises, but more like complexity. Like if there's a lot of noise going on at once, I get a bit overwhelmed and I need to like step out and take five or 10 minutes to just regain my composure. Yeah. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:11:53 We, we all understand that in this household you'll know it real quick because one of us will usually, uh, kind of burst down and say, all right, everyone be quiet. Oh yeah. Speaker 2 00:12:02 It's um, that that's, that's easily the biggest challenge, but they're, they're very understanding. That's good. That's awesome. Yeah. Do they, they know you have autism. Uh, they, yeah. I've told them they can and even then they can kind of tell that I'm a little bit on the eccentric side. Yeah. But, um, but they're, they're nice about it. They're not like bullies or anything. Like people were at other jobs, like at, like at the grocery store I worked at before. They were very like, like I said, it was really toxic and abusive, but they also kind of infantilized me a lot. They're like, they spoke to me in the dreaded baby voice and I'm like, dude, I'm 25. You can talk to me like I'm an adult, but actually no, I'm 26. But, uh, but yeah, I don't deal with any of that. Like infantilization or abusive behavior at the winery. They're all very supportive. That's awesome. That was great. That's super helpful. It's a blessing. Yes. I have Speaker 0 00:13:01 Seen the gamut. Everything from intensely toxic, um, and directly targeted at me. Oh yeah. To, uh, my current job where, um, everybody's super except that's great. Yeah. So I can see the difference for sure. I Speaker 2 00:13:19 Can feel the difference too, because when I was at the, at the grocery store, I was like, I was in like a soul sucking depression, and I was just, I was miserable. Like I didn't even want to eat when I was at the grocery store. But now that I'm like at this restaurant and I like, I've had a few other jobs here and there, like the spirit and that it was all, they're all just wonderful supportive environments. And that that's like really the most important thing. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:13:46 I'm glad. Do they do anything very specific that you can point out that they do to support you? Speaker 2 00:13:52 Um, nothing really is specific, I guess just like the, if I need like some time to cool off, they give it to me and it's nothing like super specific. Speaker 3 00:14:03 This is just being, understanding, just being decent people. Speaker 2 00:14:06 Really all I need is just understanding. Yeah. That's awesome. Very cool. Yeah. Speaker 0 00:14:11 Do you remember what your interview was like you said, do you remember your first day? Speaker 2 00:14:16 My interview, my interview, I, all I really remember was I was at the time I was like bouncing from interview to interview. So I was just like a bit tired from driving all day. I remember like, my boss was like, can I get you a glass of water? Cause there's also a restaurant at that winery. Then he comes out with like this big, huge glass of water. And, uh, that's really it, I guess. And it was, it was like your typical run of the mill interview. Uh, and that, that whole day was kind of a blur. All I remember was the big, tall glass water. Nice. Speaker 0 00:14:54 It must've been extremely refreshing for you to remember it. Speaker 2 00:14:57 Yeah. And it was, and it was like, the middle of September is still like the summer and it was like, it was hotter than blazes. And I was in like business casual attire. I was about ready to like drop nice. I mean, no, not nice. Not Speaker 0 00:15:15 To me. I see what you mean. Water nights dropping nuts are nice. So the million dollar question, Speaker 3 00:15:21 If you could do anything that you wanted to do, what would be like the dream job for Speaker 2 00:15:28 You? Oh man. I see. I don't know anymore, but I, I know like, what I want to do is just is write about what I wanna write about, um, C uh, all before all of this, I actually graduated from slippery rock university, which for anyone listening, that is a real school that exists on planet earth. If you're wondering where it is, it's an hour due North of Pittsburgh. But, um, yeah, people slippery rock is a silly name. Anybody not from Pittsburgh is like, where on earth is that? But yeah, I, I graduated from slippery rock with a bachelor of arts and communication. And I originally thought like, Oh, I'm going to do PR or marketing or something like that. And I'm just like, I grew really jaded with that. Um, like not to get really political or anything, but like seeing like how the last four years waging war against journalists and all that, I, I do screw really jaded. And I'm like, my dream job sounds like a nightmare. Yeah. I don't know. Speaker 3 00:16:31 Yeah. I don't want to, um, I don't want everybody to hate me if that's ends up being my job. And then public relations Speaker 2 00:16:37 Is like, basically, like if your CEO gets busted with, you know, like a prostitution ring and you're doing damage control. And I, I just, I cannot imagine like doing that on behalf of a company, like, or like basically if like somebody high up in your company gets canceled for like using racist language. Like this is our company stands for like these values. I can't lie on behalf of a company, you know? And that's sometimes that's, that feels like what PR is sometimes not all of the time, but I, I just, I could never do crisis communications or just like, I mean, with my degree, I really enjoyed like telling stories. And I, like, I took some classes in like PR writing and stuff like that. I love that. Like, I love the writing part and just telling stories and just being creative, but just that actual industry just didn't really jive with my values. Speaker 2 00:17:43 So I'm kind of at the ground up. And I realized like during the pandemic, like writing is really sacred to me. Like it's not something that I just want to like, suck the joy out of. Like, I don't wanna like write clickbait articles, like, like, Oh my God, you won't believe what Marjorie Taylor green said, or, Oh my gosh, Billie Eilish was at Starbucks in LA ordering a cold brew. Like, I'm not about that. I'm not about like flashy clickbait. I'm I want to write about what I want to write about, you know? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. It's, uh, like I said, it's very sacred to me and I don't want to ruin it if I'm going to write I'll like write something like maybe like an ebook on Amazon or something. But I feel like I don't feel like anyone would really care what I have to write about. Speaker 3 00:18:36 You might be surprised. I mean, I have a couple of friends who've written books, you know, they're selling them on Amazon and yeah. I mean, Speaker 2 00:18:43 My thing is more creative. Non-fiction like, I can't write sexy vampire books. It's just, I don't have it in me. Creative non-fiction is a bit more of my thing, but, uh, we'll see, Speaker 3 00:18:56 Just have to be, uh, the most popular thing you write about, you know, I think the best writing is going to be what fits you the most anyway, it's like the stuff like you're saying, if it's, if it's something you want to write about, it's going to come out in your writing and then people will like that. You know, you're not going to have everybody like everything. Right. But it's like the people who do are going to, it's going to be authentic because that's what you want it. Speaker 2 00:19:23 Yeah. Like I can't do what's popular. I never, I I've never been able to do what's popular. Well, Speaker 3 00:19:29 And I don't think, I mean, I know for our sake, we like stuff that's out there and different and like, you know, there's a, there's a whole nother, you know, different population. That's just, just because it's on mainstream doesn't mean that actually represents everybody. You know, that's like, yeah, it might be 60% of the people, but there's 40% of the people that are like different, you know, w are annoyed that the mainstream and they're like, ah, shut up. And if you are then, you know, there's other people like the, I mean, you're not alone, you know? Right. Speaker 0 00:19:59 You know, it's interesting in the interviews that we've done, we're finding a lot of people who are self-employed for, for almost exactly those reasons, right? Like can't aligned with the values of a certain company, or Speaker 2 00:20:12 Like I had a major revelation during this pandemic and I'm like, you know what? I feel like self-employment might be my only option. Like, and it's not necessarily because I want to be self-employed, but because I have to be self-employed because nobody is going to understand my needs or my strengths and my weaknesses, like me, no boss is ever really going to understand that. I mean, even if they are like the best boss in the world, like there are some things that only I really get, you know? Speaker 3 00:20:41 Absolutely. Yeah. And a lot of entrepreneurs, you know, literally start doing their own thing because whatever product or whatever they're, they're doing, wasn't done correctly. So they're like, you know, they're at a job and, you know, they're like, I could do this better, you know, and then they go out on their own and do it better because they're like, they know they can and they believe in something and yeah, that's it, Speaker 0 00:21:06 Uh, Padagonia started. He, he was like, uh, the, yeah, the CEO, he's like a climber of some kind. And he realized that he was, there was a piece of equipment he wanted and it just didn't exist. So you started making Speaker 3 00:21:20 It back yard. Right. That's cool. So I think it's now just cause you kept on mentioning, you know, during the pandemic, obviously you're your home right now because not being able to, um, has writing been something that's gotten you through the pandemic? Like, I mean, Speaker 2 00:21:37 Yes, yes. Yes. I've been, I've actually been journaling for the last few years and I credit journaling with like helping me get through this global pandemic, just like the, the grief of losing my job. And I haven't seen my best friend since February and I miss her so much. And, um, she's, she's a law student and she's been, God bless her. She's been doing all her classes online, but uh, it's, uh, I haven't seen her since, before this started and I've just been really lonely. And I've been like in my apartment for basically the whole year except to go to work or get stuff at the store or whatever else. And I mean, I've, I've seen my family through it, but that my, my parents and brother only lived like 10 minutes away. But, um, but yeah, th like I credit writing with keeping me sane. It's, it's, it's kept my, kept my brain sharp and it's, I've been, it's been, it's helped with my emotional intelligence as well. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:22:43 And it's clearly you're passionate about it. So I think that's great. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:22:47 Like I'm, uh, I'm I honestly, I think I'm a better I'm, I'm better at written communication than I am at spoken communication. Speaker 0 00:22:54 Oh yes. I absolutely am you give them a moment of something and I will kind of fumble my way through it all. Yeah. But if I have, uh, if I have a gap, a small timeframe to just formulate what's going on, and then I can put it down in words, way more eloquent. Speaker 2 00:23:14 Yeah. And like, reminds me like, there's this, there was the sound on Tik TOK. And it's like, like the first part is M and M wrapping it like a mile a minute and the song Godzilla, and then it cuts to this like little boy who's like, Hey, you ever, um, uh, have you, do you, do you like that? That's basically like how I am with written communication versus spoken communication and that yeah. It's like, I promised myself I wasn't gonna get tick-tock and I did. And now I'm at the end stages of obsession with it. I've become one of those people, but it's also tick talks also been a pretty positive outlet for me as well. Like I've been making videos about, uh, well, like I said earlier with the album reviews, um, yeah. That, and it's more just like my, my bio says neurodivergent pop culture queen. Nice. But it's like a random hodgepodge of things, but that's also an outlet for me. Like, I, I would sort of into like video editing and high school. Like I took TV productions as an elective. And I like when I was younger, I wanted to be a filmmaker. Oh, Speaker 3 00:24:24 That's funny. I was just going to ask you if you did something like that. Cause you could always write, like, you know, if you're doing some of that, you can write your own movies or something. Yeah. Like I actually, Speaker 2 00:24:34 I wanted to be a screenwriter. Like if money was no object, I probably would have been a screenwriter. And um, like before this pandemic started, I actually wrote a one-woman play. Um, but I never put it on because of lack of, uh, insufficient funds. And of course, uh, COVID-19 ravaged the earth, but, um, it's, I guess it's still like burning a hole in my file somewhere. Nice to play. But I look forward to that one then someday not coming soon to a theater near I know. And like movies, music, just like creative, stuff like that. And I think my parents sort of like fostered that interest in me as well. Like, like my dad is a massive film buff and uh, like both my parents like absolutely love music. They have like, they have it on like all the time when I'm over there. I mean, it's great. But it's also kind of been to my detriment because it's kind of held me back from getting a real job. Cause it's like, I, I feel like I'm only wired to do certain things and I can't really fit in, in corporate America. You know? Speaker 3 00:25:44 That's good. It's like, it's quite the dilemma. I mean, it's like, it's hard. And it's interesting talking to you to hear about, um, because you know, like having autism and, and seeing like the statistics about people who have degrees in like, and don't have jobs Speaker 2 00:26:02 Because I saw something like, it was like 85%, sorry to interrupt, but go ahead. But yeah, it's like 85% of like autistic adults are unemployed or underemployed and I'm just like, that's unacceptable to me. Absolutely. Speaker 3 00:26:15 But I mean, it's, it's good to talk to you because I mean, as much as it pains me to see you being in that difficult place of like, I can't, I bet that's exactly what I'm saying. It's like, you're having a hard time. It's like, I'm not sure where I fit in. And it's, it's a difficult thing to figure Speaker 2 00:26:32 Out. Never really fit in anywhere, like never at school. Cause I mean, I've made this observation before, but it feels like the workforce is a lot like high school only like 10 times worse because high school it's like, you got to fit in like have to, like, you gotta be just like everybody else. Or you're like a total outcast college was excellent. I loved college. Cause I was just able to be who I was. And I just felt accepted by everybody. I mean, I was, I mean, I was in a business fraternity in college and they still accepted me as I was. That's awesome. Yeah. But now I'm in, I'm out of college and I'm, I can't fit in anymore. The workforce is like 10 times worse than high school and it's all about conformity and I just, I can't really conform, no matter how hard I try, I Speaker 0 00:27:23 Hear that one, Adam is a chameleon. He can, he can fit in anywhere. Um, he's like the guy, everybody loves, everybody loves Adam everywhere we go, Oh, Hey bud, how's it going? Oh man. You know, Speaker 2 00:27:38 I can try, but it's not an impression that lasts. I'm the same way. I mean, Speaker 3 00:27:45 It feels exactly like if Speaker 0 00:27:47 I try to mask and particularly at work, I usually don't mask, not at work because it's just too exhausting and it's not worth my time. And I'm sorry, but if you don't accept me for who I am, I don't really want you in my life. So that's kind of where I'm at. But at work at work you kind of have to, Oh yeah, Speaker 2 00:28:02 Exactly. It's like, there's a lot at stake. Like if you don't like, if you don't blend in, then you could lose your job. Like I had like actually I, I sort of didn't talk about this, but like right after college, I got my first big girl job. It was at a corporate travel agency and um, it was basically like a call center slash cubicle farm. I lasted about five weeks. I aced all of the tests, like the, like the knowledge tests, but I could not make phone calls. I just melted down. I couldn't handle all of like the phone's ringing and the lights and all of that crap. And then like week five, they called me in and they were like, you can't conduct yourself in an office environment. So we have to let you go. Yeah, I was absolutely devastated at the time. But looking back, I sort of dodged a bullet because you know, the pandemic basically torpedoed the travel industry and I would have lost that job anyway. So, Speaker 3 00:29:05 And that's a good lesson to learn and kind of helps you figure out where you know, what, what you're good at or what you're not good at. Speaker 0 00:29:14 Hold on. Can I, I want to interrupt for a second, cause this is perfect. We spoke about this probably 15 minutes ago. Um, that when we were talking about wines, you learn what works, but learning what doesn't work and, and, and writing off that's right back. Yeah. Speaker 2 00:29:30 Like I, I mean, I, I mean, when I got fired from that, I was absolutely devastated, but that, but it only took like all of this time for me to realize, know what, maybe that wasn't the right fit for me. And like, I mean, it sounds cliche, but I guess everything happens for a reason. I was like, believe it does. I shouldn't feel too torn up about losing that job because that entire industry went to pieces. Speaker 3 00:29:58 No, exactly. And like I said before the, before we were recording, you know, it's like, I think life literally will tell you where to go and we just have to, we just kind of have to follow it. You know? That's the hardest part. Yeah. That's right. Speaker 2 00:30:15 Absolutely. Yeah. Right. Go with the flow. Yeah. Speaker 3 00:30:21 I, um, I want to thank you very much for being here with us today. Carly. Awesome. Speaker 2 00:30:28 It was nice meeting you too. Thanks a lot for joining us today. Speaker 0 00:30:33 Thanks for listening. We love having ya. Uh, listen. We'd actually like to chat with you. Uh, talk about your job. Um, have you on the show please? So go to our website, carved resumes.com, click the contact Speaker 1 00:30:48 Link and fill it out. Just say, Hey, I want to be a guest. We do not care what your job is. It doesn't have to be fancy. It can be anything you'd just like to speak to you. And uh, we need guests and your cool join us.